TY - JOUR T1 - Ten minutes with Doctors Adam and Tom Sullivan JF - BMJ Leader JO - BMJ Leader SP - 251 LP - 253 DO - 10.1136/leader-2020-000301 VL - 4 IS - 4 AU - Adam Harvey-Sullivan AU - Thomas Bernard Sullivan AU - Peter Sullivan Y1 - 2020/12/01 UR - http://bmjleader.bmj.com/content/4/4/251.abstract N2 - BiographiesAdam Harvey-Sullivan MB BS MA is a junior doctor living and working in East London. Currently whilst continuing clinical work he is studying for a Masters in Public Health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. He gained a degree in Natural Sciences from the University of Cambridge before going on to qualify in Medicine from Imperial College, London. This August he will start an Academic Clinical Fellowship in General Practice at Queen Mary’s University in East London. He has an interest in medical education, health inequalities and the wider social, political and ecological determinants of health.Tom Sullivan MB BS MA MRCS studied medicine at the University of Cambridge and Imperial College London, qualifying in 2017. He is a Clinical Fellow in general and trauma surgery at a London teaching hospital. Adam: I would say the key messages are for colleagues to be patient and kind with each other. We are going through an extraordinary event at the moment and the NHS is having to adapt faster than ever in its existence. On the ground, this means significant and evolving changes to our behaviours ranging from interactions with patients and relatives to donning/doffing of PPE and coordinating patient flow. We are all learning as we go and there will be mistakes and disagreements. When these happen we need to support each other. Tom: Leaders are not expected to have all the answers right away. We all know that this is a situation with no precedent in most of our lifetimes. We know that it is fast moving and that trying to respond and plan (whether day by day, or looking months and years ahead) has myriad unknowns and challenges. Plans will have to change and strong leadership will involve admitting when something is not working. … ER -